Dear Jimmy Jumshade Sahib,
Thank you for your detailed comments on various issues.
You are right that the cartoons are nothing for the Danes. But they are not ridiculing Jesus, rather the same newspaper refused to publish Jesus cartoons out of fear of outcry from its readers. But they do not care for the outcry of 1.87 billion Muslims in the world. We do not want our Prophet (PBUH) to be ridiculed by anyone. It is a part of our faith and it is written in Quran and several Ahadiths that we should love our Prophet more than any one else, more than even our own parents. When we cannot tolerate ridiculing of our parents, how can we keep mum and quiet on the ridiculing cartoon, depicting our Prophet as a terrorist with a bomb smoke coming out of his turban?
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Please read my letter to the ambassador again. You will find replies to some of your other comments about freedom of speech in Europe. Therefore I would not repeat them again here. I quote here a part of it. "We hope, your Prime Minister may easily persuade these editors citing instances of Japan
You are right in your comment that "They are excercising their traditional "freedom of speech" which they do not excercise nor apply to "Holocaust Denial" or criticisim of Israel, Jews or Zionists." This is their double standard against which we have a right to protest.
I also agree with your suggestion except the last sentence: "However, however you must mobilize the lazy,uncaring, dis-united Muslims into protesting against GITMO GULAG bombing of Muslim/arab countries as a matter of routine Foreign Policy.This would be time better spent then chasing cartoons."
As regards Muslim revival, you are right that we "cannot knock down a single intruding fighter/bomber sent by the West to drop a million tons of bombs upon Muslim countries per one-way war......." That will be the last stage of Muslim revival. At present we have to start Muslim revival by strenghtening our FAITH, as a first step, as our Prophet had started alone in Mecca. FAITH will then strenghten our morals and character. The second stage sould be the strengthening of Muslim CHARACTER MORALS. For this purpose, we first need an intellectual renaissance to let our Western-educated Muslims have faith in the viability of Islam in 21st century as a possibly successful political, social and economic system, much better than the West. Islam was a SUPER POWER for more than 12 centuries, one of the longest in the history of civilizations, when our FAITH CHARACTER was according to Quran and Sunnah. Muslims were dominting in the world since 6th to 18th century. Our FALL started with the degeneration of our FAITH CHARACTER. The mechanism of our FALL was stimulated with the RISE of the West after the Industrial revolution in England. Thereafter, the Western imperialism started colonizing all Muslim countries since 19th century. Ottoman Empire of Muslim started weakening. Ataturk tried to strengthen it by imitating Western Thought and Culture and threw aside Islamic FAITH CHARACTER, which was the real source of Ottoman Empire's strength for over 5 centuries. His strategy proved a failure and Turkey became "the sick man of Europe". 80 years of Secularism brought bankruptcy to Turkey. Islamists came to its rescue and again gained ground. They are now ruling successfully with Moderated Islam for the last 5 years. Turkey is a best example of Muslim Revival and failure of Secularism in a Muslim country.
Still we and our ruling classes are slaves of Western Thought despite political freedom from the West. Muslim revival has to start first in our MINDS HEARTS. Then a time will come when we can face Western bombs as well.
Regards,
Hussain Khan
Hussain Khan
----- Original Message -----From: Jimmy JumshadeTo: pakistan-zindabad@yahoogroups. ; WideMinds@yahoogroucom ps.com ; indianjustice@yahoogroups. ; sindorg@yahoogroupscom .com ; issuesonline_worldwide@ ; political_analysts@yahoogroups. com yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:17 AMSubject: [WideMinds] Re: Final draft of a letter to Danish ambassador for suggestions and amendments by tommorrowHi 786 Hussain Khan Sahib:
Thank you for your courteous response,in spite of my provocative post which is appreciated. Cartoons honor are not related but some people find them offensive, if so, one must adopt political means to address such problems, which you are doing. However, you must keep in mind that the Danes are FREE minded Europeans to them cartoons honor have no connection they are not Muslims, so Muhammad(PBUH) means nobody/nothing to them for they even make fun of cartoons of their own JESUS.They are excercising their traditional "freedom of speech" which they do not excercise nor apply to "Holocaust Denial" or criticisim of Israel, Jews or Zionists.
However, however you must mobilize the lazy,uncaring, dis-united Muslims into protesting against GITMO GULAG bombing of Muslim/arab countries as a matter of routine Foreign Policy.This would be time better spent then chasing cartoons.
And Sir, there can never ever be any revival of Islam/Muslims unless there is complete separation of Religion State.They cannot knock down a single intruding fighter/bomber sent by the West to drop a million tons of bombs upon Muslim countries per one-way war.......so how the heck can they revive anything??!!
786 <786@muslimrevival.com> wrote:I have already written articles on the subjects of your interest. To strive for upholding the honor of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is also obligatory for Muslims, as long as they want to keep themselves within the boundaries of Islam. Muslim revival is not so far away. May be you will see it before you pass away to another world.Regards,
Hussain Khan----- Original Message -----From: Jimmy JumshadeSent: Monday, March 10, 2008 11:27 PMSubject: [WideMinds] Re: Final draft of a letter to Danish ambassador for suggestions and amendments by tommorrowBig deal. You should be writing letters protesting GITMO GULAG, GAZA, IRAQ instead of wasting your time on petty stuff.............no wonder the Muslims are in the gutters.
At this rate there will never be any Muslim revival, Inshallah!!!
Hussain Khan, Tokyo <786@muslimrevival.com > wrote:MUSLIM PEACE FEDERATION JAPAN Bessho 2-16-3-702, Hachioji-Shi,192-0363; Tokyo : 09033566207, Phone: 0426-76-4982, Fax: 044-955-6194 0426-57-3551 Mobile email: muslim@muslimrevival.com Contact person: Abdel-rahman Mohammad, Secretary, JMPF: 09091390490--------------------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ToHis Excellency Mr. Freddy Svane,Ambassador of, Denmark Tokyo March 11, 2008Subject: Letter of thanks and about future course of actionYour Excellency,1 Even though it is a bit late, we take this opportunity to thank you for the nice meeting and discussion we had with you on Frid ay, 29th February. We also thank you further for the elaborate arrangements you had made to welcome us by preparing a special signboard welcoming the undersigned on behalf of your embassy. We regard it as an honor not for any specific individual but for all the 37 Muslim organizations participating in this matter.2 Some more Muslim organizations also want to include their names in support of the Protest Letter submitted to Your Excellency on Friday. I will convey their names to you later.3 We also welcome Your Excellency¡Çs repeated offer for dialogue by coming to our places or centers, even your readiness to go to Osaka, as expressed to our delegate from Osaka Muslim Association during the last meeting.4 On March 23rd, some of our participant organizations are celebrating the birthday of our Prophet (peace be upon him). There may be some meeting in some hall in the evening on that day. If you have no other important schedule in the evening of March 23, Sunday, some of our organizations would like to invite you to their birthday-celebration meetings to hear your views about the personality and contributions of our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) on such a solemn occasion. Specific time and venue of such meetings will be communicated to you after getting your reply about such a possibility and also after the availability of any such public hall is confirmed at our end. 5 Another idea floating in the minds of some of our members is to have a joint Press Conference atin Hibiya and both sides to reply to the questions of Japanese Media. Before making any final decision in our next meeting, we would like to know the views of Your Excellency in this regard. We will make some specific plans in this respect in the next meeting of our Federation on March 14 and request your reply on the above matters before it. Japan Press Center 6 We also want to take this opportunity to thank your Prime Minster for his statement that he does not support demonizing any specific religious or ethnic group in. As all members of our delegation emphasized on Friday, we request the Prime Minister to frame laws in Denmark in support of his own statement. The 17 newspapers in your country do not respect the position of your government and they are repeating the same biased demonizing of a specific religious group, i.e. ourselves, on a false plea of freedom of speech, which your Prime Minster says that he does not support. Denmark 7 As the demonstrations against your country are still going on in Muslim countries, we suggest your Prime Minister to call a meeting of those 17 newspaper editors and to persuade them, in the interest of keeping the goodwill of Denmark among the Muslims living in almost all parts of the globe, to issue a joint statement of apology to pacify the sacred religious sentiments of Muslims. We hope, your Prime Minister may easily persuade these editors citing instances of, U.S.A and several other European countries, where freedom of expression has been voluntarily restricted and has not been misused deliberately against the religious authorities of any denomination on such a mass scale as the concerted action of your 17 newspapers. Japan 8 As the latest figures up to the end of 2007 show that the population of Muslims has now increased to 1.87 billion, instead of 1.2 billion as we had been writing in previous letters. They will not be satisfied unless the words of your Prime Minister are transformed into some sort of positive and even legal action as well. Muslim governments may ban your goods or not but, on individual level, these billions of Muslims in the world will continue the boycott of Danish goods unless their sentiments are pacified by framing of blasphemy laws protecting all religious figureheads including Islam and Christianity.9 Unfortunately, the blasphemy laws inprotect only Christianity and not Islam. But the major newspapers in Britain are not like those in your country. They follow some ethical code and journalistic traditions. It is a matter of regret and a great loss to England itself in different respects that the newspapers in your country are not ready to follow any ethical standards and have continued demonizing our Prophet (peace be upon him) repeatedly. Laws may not be necessary in those countries where the media follows some self-imposed ethics as in Denmark Japan ,or even in some European countries. Therefore, we request the Prime Minister of Denmark to enact laws respecting the religion of 1.87 billion Muslims in the world in interest of United States itself to promote its goodwill among all people in this global village of about 6.5 billion residents. Denmark 10 After reading the news of our delegation¡Çs meeting with your Excellency, we have been receiving encouraging mails and suggestions from all over the world. We are reproducing below one of them, which shed better light on our position. It is from the Editor of an Islamic monthly magazine, IMPACT, which was being published fromfor last several years. London ----- Original Message -----
From: "M Faruqi" <editor@impact-magazine. >com
To: <786@muslimrevival.com >
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Photos of Meeting with Danish ambassador and
demonstration-------AND- ----
> Wa-alaikum assalam wa rahmatullah wa barakatuhu
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> Congratulations to all for conveying to the Danish government through their ambassador in Tokyo their expression of revulsion as well as rejection of the willful sacrilege against the Prophet, peace be upon him, going on in Denmark. But what did the Danish ambassador say to the Muslim delegation?
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> However, as to your demand that the Danish government enact a law against sacrilege, I copy below a news story (Jyllands-Posten Rejected Jesus Satire) which shows that given good sense and moral will, newspapers can and do refuse to publish profane and blasphemous caricature or stories.May be you can tell this to the ambassador.
> SPIEGEL ONLINE - February 8, 2006, 06:26 PM
> URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international /0,1518,399840, 00.html
> COMIC KAMPF
> Jyllands-Posten Rejected Jesus Satire
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> By Carsten Volkery
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> With the publication of 12 Muhammad cartoons,'s Jyllands-Posten newspaper wanted to send a message about self-censorship. A competing Danish paper is now reporting that the paper rejected similar satirical comics of Jesus. Denmark
> Do the editors of Jyllands-Posten apply double standards?
> REUTERS
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> Do the editors of Jyllands-Posten apply double standards?
> Although the strife over the Muhammad cartoons published in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten already feels like it's been going on for a small eternity, new angles continue to pop up each day. The latest comes from the Danish daily Politiken, conservative Jyllands-Posten's more left-leaning competitor.
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> On Saturday, Politiken printed a series of caricatures of Jesus on its editorial page. Next to them, the paper reprinted an e-mail exchange from April 2003 in which a leading Jyllands-Posten editor rejected publication of satirical cartoons depicting Jesus Christ. His reasoning?
> "I don't think the readers of Jyllands-Posten would be pleased with the drawings. I think they would cause an outrage. That's why I won't use them."
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> That line of reasoning, of course, is raising eyebrows this week. Does the newspaper responsible for launching the battle over the Muhammad caricatures, which now presents itself as a champion of free speech, apply a different standard for its Christian readers? "It does look a little like hypocrisy," said Politiken opinion page editor Jacob Fuglsand.
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> Reached by telephone, Jens Kaiser, the Jyllands-Posten editor responsible for the email said he now regrets the wording of the message. "I could not foresee that my kind refusal would be published three years later. My fault was that I didn't tell him what I really meant. The cartoons were just bad."
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> Ultimately, however, the Jesus cartoons were an unfortunate coincidence. The self-employed illustrator responsible for them, Christoffer Zieler, sent the unsolicited Jesus caricatures to the newspaper just before Easter 2003. "He suggested that we print them on Easter Sunday," Kaiser recalled, but he rejected them, "like 95 percent of all submissions." Kaiser also explained that he often tried to use more polite methods of brushing off illustrators than to simply tell them their work was lousy.
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But in today's loaded atmosphere, the e-mail is proving explosive. The decision showed a "double standard" a member of the Muslim interest group told's Guardian. Politiken first learned of the drawings after the illustrator contacted the newspaper. "I found that it was a nice story that opens a new angle on the dilemmas an editor faces," Fuglsand said. Of course, editors also love nothing better the opportunity to take a stab at the competition. Britain
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> D"m SPIEGEL ONLINE 2006
> All Rights Reserved
> Reproduction only allowed with the permission of SPIEGELnet GmbHYour Excellency, the above story from authentic European sources clearly indicates the double standards used by those 17 newspapers in the name of freedom of expression. This unfair and biased attitude of your country¡Çs newspapers is damaging the interests ofitself. This situation calls for immediate legislation to stop such unethical and biased freedom of speech hurting the sentiments of over one-fifth population of the world. Denmark Also please have a look on another mail being circulated among the Muslims inJapan. It also cites the web addresses where photos and videos of our demonstration and meeting with Your Excellency are also available for your reference. ----- Original Message -----From: Imran Al-HaqSent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:52 AMSubject: Photo Coverage of Demonstration -Tokyo Dear TIACO members,AoA!It is aginst my philosophy to post things on a multi-linguistic e-Group that are in anyother language than English, but today I am doing it for the first time in my life. Please accept my thousand apologies for this. The TEXT is in URDU language. Non-Urdu readers are requested to please ignore the text; but, please do have a look on the photos showing that MUSLIMS DELEGATION had a dialogue with the Ambassador of Denamrk on the issue of caricatures/cartoons. The following two sources are two Online Urdu News Sources (based in) Tokyo It may give a peace of mind to our all muslims (including me) that Muslims instaged a very peaceful protest in a civilized manner. Japan Photo Coverage on YouTube (with Arabic playback)This demonstration was the first in the history of Japan when Muslims were represented not only by Pakistanis but by a multi-linguistic, muli-cultural, multi-national representatives from Uzbikstan, Egypt, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Chad, Africa, and even Japanese Muslim (see photos).- We will not buy your products DENMARK MUSLIMS inMiddle East , please stop shopping from any super market/store that sells Danish products.Sincerely,M. Imran Al-Haq, PhDDatabase AdministratorMuslims Peace Federation¡É Japan
Your Excellency, the above mail indicates the feelings and sentiments of Muslims inwith photographic evidence. Moreover, the above-quoted two sites of Urdu networks are also displaying complete coverage of our discussions with Your Excellency in English. These videos are being viewed by Muslims all over the world, as I think, we are the only Muslims in Japan who have maintained a dialogue with Your Excellency and a line of communication with the Danish government through Your Excellency¡Çs good offices. Japan Looking forward to your kind response to all the above matters before March 14, we remain,Sincerely,ForMUSLIM PEACE FEDERATION JAPAN Hussain Khan,Coordinator
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